Ashin Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 I agree AO was innovative. But how was DAoC not another EQ1 clone at it's core? I guess the RvR pvp added a lot to the mix, but the essential concepts were the same I think. I also now have to add Guildwars to my list of innovative games.. and actually that one is so different that I almost can't even call it the same kind of game as EQ1 (and this is a nice thing). My opinion (and was talking to Cyrus about this) is that gaming is such a huge industry now that its become Hollywood-ized.. meaning ppl plug things into a formula and figure this will make xxx $ because these kinds of games are so popular right now. I think only a few ppl are actually trying to make games, per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyna Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 i agree with you Ash, video games are now the mainstream. Hell console/pc games are like movies now, and now some games have a better production quality than some major movies. You guys even notice how bad we derail threads.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyco Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 DAOC brought about unique classes, unique specing system, RvR (pvp for the masses), Battlegrounds, 3 factions each with their own unique flavor, further character development with alternate ways to level your characters to make them more powerful, gear and weapons with a durability (so you cant keep 1 weapon forever) I can go on and on if I think about it more, but I must say DAOC added alot to the MMO world. Also, videogames bring in more money than movies! and cost MUCH less to produce.. I cringe at the day of $100 million dollar budgeted games. But it seems PC gaming is dying and more and more people are buying up consoles every few years, PS3 is supposed to be in the $600 range and the producer of sony said he expects it to be relevent for 10 years at that price. I really doubt that, unless they are allowing chip/memory upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyna Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 zyco it costs about that much money to produce top rated game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyco Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 No, not even close <a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4442346.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4442346.stm</a> <a class="postlink" href="http://greggman.com/headlines/2000/2000-11-11g.htm">http://greggman.com/headlines/2000/2000-11-11g.htm</a> Seems licensing of sports teams and names drives costs up but nothing is topping the $20m range and movie budgets are 100-200m+ now and no signs of slowing down. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.theesa.com/facts/sales_genre_data.php">http://www.theesa.com/facts/sales_genre_data.php</a> <a class="postlink" href="http://www.npdfunworld.com/funServlet?n">http://www.npdfunworld.com/funServlet?n ... nt_id=2076</a> Video Game industy here in the US made over 7 Billion since 2004 <a class="postlink" href="http://www.npdfunworld.com/funServlet?n">http://www.npdfunworld.com/funServlet?n ... nt_id=2148</a> who would have thought Doom 3 for Xbox was so huge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroglyphix Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 What movies cost $100-$200 million to make?? The entire LOTR trilogy only cost $300 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyco Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Superman Returns was well over 200 million <a class="postlink" href="http://www.forbes.com/digitalentertainm">http://www.forbes.com/digitalentertainm ... xes=custom</a> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashin Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I heard that was pretty good? *pushes the derail train further* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyco Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I liked it, and Bryan Singer took over as director when the film was already in over 100 mil.. it had ties into the people as far back as 1997 - Kevin Smith was asked to write the script back then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 You guys even notice how bad we derail threads.? *waves at the rushing train, while looking back at the OP* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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